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ordering and was involved in the drafting process. this briefing is 35 minutes. >> good afternoon everyone. the president, as we'll know, has issued three executive orders related to our homeland security commission. this will keep our homeland safe -- terrorists out of our countries. i would like to talk about what it does and does not mean. this is not a travel ban. this allows us to review the vetting system. over the next 30 days, we will view our system.

we will then provide our partners 60 days to cooperate and revise. this way we can make sure the system is doing what it was designed to do which is to protect the american people. this analysis is long overdue and strongly supported by the organization's career intelligence officials. we will speak to that in more detail shortly. furthermore, this is not, i repeat, not a ban on muslims. the homeland security mission is to protect the american people, values, and, our religious liberty is one of our most fundamental and treasured values. it is important to remember there are terrorists and other bad actors who are seeking to infiltrate our homeland every day. the seven countries mentioned

by congresssignated and the obama administration is this requiring additional security when making decisions about who comes into our. as my predecessor like to say, it is easier to play defense on the fifth guideline than it is on the one yard line. by preventing terrorists from entering our country, we can prevent terrorists from striking the homeland. we cannot gamble with american lives. i will not gamble with american laws. these are matters of national security. i have sworn to protect and ifend the american people and have directed the department of leadership to implement the directly, orders humanely, and in the accordance with the law. these were issued over the weekend. cvp immediately began taking steps. that's customs and border protection, immediately began

taking steps to be in compliance. we are and will remain in compliance with judicial order. defense, the department of justice, and state. making sure to be all are afforded the rights guaranteed under our law. protect the homeland. these executive orders help do that. i am happy to have my colleagues enter any questions, clarifying positions that may be confusing. we have with us today acting commissioner of cbp, acting commissioner of ice, and my senior department of intelligence chief. -- with that >> good afternoon. customs border and protection.

i am here to talk about the implementation of the executive order. upon receiving the order, cbp action, calling on suspending action for 90 days from the seven affected countries. we routinely make changes and our systems and policies or immigration entry at our border. we acted quickly on friday evening to make the changes with this executive order. first we made changes in our identify those passport holders and visa holders from the affected countries. we had a call from our director of field operations to inform them of the executive order and the actions they needed to take. we issued written kinds. we had calls with stakeholders, air carriers and airports. so they would understand how to operate. we also, overnight on fighting and saturday, work through a process to be able to waiver

travelers in transit or who had sensitive cases that should be considered for a waiver in the national interest that the executive order calls for. in the first 72 hours of the order, one million travelers came through our borders by air. out of this travelers, 500,000 were born nationals. the people affected by this order, we denied boarding to 721 travelers. 1060e actually processed lawful permanent residents of the united states as well as an additional 75 waivers granted to nonimmigrant visa holders. to make sure everyone understands how the process is working today, lawful permanent residents and special visa holders are allowed to board their flights. we have done that of her 1000 times so far in the three days of the implementation. visa holdersigrant

and nonimmigrant visa holders covered will be denied boarding before they board their aircraft and will be referred to the department of state for further process. another question that has come up is whether travelers are treated differently. they will be treated based on the passport they present. if you are presented as a united kingdom resident, it does not apply to you upon arrival. i also want to talk about refugees. the executive order's calls for refugees ready to travel where it would cause undue hardship that they should be considered for waivers. we have done that in concert with our state department colleagues. 872 refugees will arrive this weekend we will process them for theers through the end of week. a sec. kelly: did, we are responding immediately to court orders. -- as secretary kelly ordered,

we are responding immediately to court orders. lastly, want to tell you to increase information to travelers, we are our website. it will be you -- there when you login. givingill be faq's information to stakeholders and the public as well as a link for individual travelers and a phone number to call. that will be on our website. thank you. >> good morning. i am the acting director for ice . it was a great honor to be contacted in the last couple days to step up in this capacity. toid this because i served serve my -- i chose to serve my country once again. i have been in the immigration

enforcement business for 30 years. i started on the u.s. border patrol. u.s. homeland security investigations for over 20 years. backend. on the i certainly know the immigration lifecycle and how to enforce immigration laws. act in thisto capacity because of my concern for the safety of communities. you know, folks, there are jurisdictions across the country where aliens are arrested. criminal aileen -- criminal committed crimes and then they are back in our communities. to go back my agents out and knock on doors to arrest people they should have arrested in the community jail. the framework has changed under the executive orders of donald trump. themnimum, we will execute perfectly at ice and we are here

to serve. thank you very much. >> thank you. i am the acting under secretary for intelligence. i just want to echo secretary kelly's remarks. this is the fundamental responsibility of our government to protect the national homeland from the various actors trying to come inbound to the united states. this is for us to take a temporary pause to look at how we run things against the national database to look at nefarious actors. i am looking at how the intelligence community, the department of defense, our federal state and local agencies share information and how we run that information against anyone trying to come inbound to the united states to identify these sophisticated networks that are potentially trying to come inbound. we're trying to break down those barriers to share information,

continue our automated screening -- andting prop assists vetting processes. this is a pause to take a look at how we collect data and how we exploited against national security threats. >> too quick questions. icet, to the acting director. is ice planning to grow into the isn't planning to extend the time in which people are held? wouldn't it have been easier if you had guidance before the

order came out? could confusion have been avoided? >> on the first question, yes. we have to secure our borders. we need to detain those people. we are looking at how to increase the detention capacity. like to give due process and once they get that order from the judge, execute that order. thanks before you step up let me frame it a little bit. we did know the executive order was coming. we had people involved in the general drafting of it. clearly, this whole approach was part of what ben-candidate donald trump talked about for a year or two. we knew it was coming. we had high-level government lawyers from across the agencies to include homeland security who

were involved in the drafting of it so we knew it was coming. it was not a surprise it was coming. and we implemented it. so go ahead. >> our job at the operation statutes,o take executive orders, or emerging threats effectively. we go through that assess, communications in the field, communications with stakeholders. we had orders come in right when we were implementing plans. we worked quickly to implement and i think the process has really smooth out. within 72 hours, they were within two hours of the executive order being received. reporter here. two questions for whoever wants to take this. there are several lawmaker and educator groups saying that

court orders were ignored to handcuff and try to report some passengers. can you reassure that agents are following the orders? a president has called the executive order "extreme vetting." can you describe exactly what is involved? homelandber of the security team ignored court orders. , iave heard these reports have asked people to include members of congress who called them in and asked him to run down information and of course we have no information. but we would not ignore a court order. >> what exactly was involved? vetting, we are looking at various options. led by homeland security. countries, seven

we dealing with right now, that in our view, in my view, have -- don't have the kind of law enforcement records keeping, that kind of thing, that can convince us that one of their citizens is indeed who that citizen says they are and what their background might be. there are various other additional things we are considering. on the other end, when someone comes in and asks for consideration to get a visa, it might be certainly an accounting of what websites they visit. it might be telephone contact information so that we conceded they are talking to. so again, all of this are under development that those are the kind of things we're looking at. social media. we have to be convinced that people that come here, there is a reasonable expectation that we know who they are and what they are coming here for and what their back on sorry end right now there are a number of

countries on the planet that do not have that kind of records keeping, police work, that kind of thing. and seven countries right now fall under that category. so we are developing what additional betting, extreme vetting, might look like. >> i would add that the secretary comments, specifically the legal team, operation team, as soon as the court order was received, they advised us on the implications. we put a complete hold on anyone with removed in connection the executive order. we then processed those folks for waivers and released them in the united states. >> paula reed, cbs news. two questions. first, clarify what you said about knowing the executive order was coming. you knew it was going to be signed on friday. there have been reports that you were upset about it. it you know was coming? >> as i said, we knew it was

coming from two days ago and from what mr. trump for started to run for president. certainly i did not learn about it on an airplane. signed friday morning, i took a trip down to miami for a couple different reasons one of which was to visit the people on the front lines of this all effort. that is the folks at the miami airport, tsa, border patrol, those kind of people. as you probably all know, i came -- before retired, 39 months in southern command. the partnership that frankly is very strong between homeland --, and fact i am very proud to say that developed very closely between myself when i was in command and my very, very good friend jeh johnson. we want to continue that. but no, did not learn about it on an airplane.

specifically, green card holders are people with leases, seems like a lot of the problems encountered could have been easily foreseeable. from our perspective, again, people like me are respected and not just because of my military background, we are the implementers of the policy. developed by the white house, approved by the president. in collaboration and then sent down to the departments for execution, in this case, homeland security. the executive order, to me, was clear. less fairly again, when that came down i think i was on my sixth day on the job and i relied on people like the ones standing up here on the one spec and headquarters to say, ok. this looks good was and we are off to the races. -- this looks good to us and we're off to the races.

i kept asking -- being asked about cases -- i kept being asked about chaos at the ports entry. our officers, at the counter said to his bee the only chaos they saw was what was taken place in other parts of the airport. they knew what they were doing as foreign nationals presented themselves. they knew what to do with then and as i say, the only i guess, if we had to step back and talk a little bit, kevin can address that, he already has, we had to step back and reprocess a little bit on the court order we already passes. so i do this was under development and i think we were in pretty good shape and how it was implemented by the work force. >> huffington post, the white house has said repeatedly 109 people were inconvenienced by this.

the number you give is getting wavered more like 10 times that. 109 and then the number of people you just gave not being let on a plane, -- think was very on, right? the first a of the thing. of course, over time the number would increase. go ahead kevin, if you have on, right? anything else. >> can you explain why the white house did not have a current number? they said 100 nine yesterday. record-keeping we do is not always -- it is not always, it is based on yesterday. so the acting commissioner can give you some very good numbers yesterday but in order to get the numbers today we have to wait until tomorrow. that is just the way they collect the information. obviously, it is an ongoing time

of coming and going. kevin: the secretary is absolutely correct. the white house was referring to the initial hours and the folks in transit. there was a much larger number of folks who landed in the u.s. who were subject to the court order. we will keep updating the numbers on our website so we give you the updated information from about roughly 24 hours before every time we post. homeland security, was it in place before the executive order and secondly when did you learn specifically that president trump was signing this? >> i knew he was going to sign an order about a year and a half or two years before he became president elect.

from day one, in terms of the finishing touches. i have to put it that way were put on the executive order. in the government, attorneys as well, were part of that. people on my staff were generally involved. i guess probably wednesday i think we learned. tuesday or wednesday that it would probably be during the week that it would be signed out. as you can imagine, going back right up to the last minute. adjusting right up until the last minute. i think probably thursday we found out it was going to be a.ned the next certainly if you really, you know, if you really want to know with an executive order, just read the newspaper before the day before and you will find out. kevin and his whole team knows it is coming. no certainly the president-elect and knows what direction the

-- draft executive order was outlining. so i do not know nearly as much as kevin as how was executed right down to the counter level at the airport and he was leaving forward on that so when it was signed he executed it. i think kevin would agree, the only adjustment that had to be made was when the court order came out and of course we reacted to that as fast as we could. a littleyou explain bit about this impression of confusion we heard from the airlines. they thought they were getting contradictory guidance especially with respect to whether or not legal permanent residents were allowed to board aircraft and where they would get their secondary screening that people started talking about. perhaps you could explain a little bit about that level of contention and why that him about. order,r the executive

section three, there is a provision for granting of waivers when it is in the national interest. so it is technically covered as immigrant visa holders. we worked quickly with counsel to devise a waiver passes. the secretary had given guidance that returning residents, their the national interest to welcome them home. so once we got that guidance, we work able to delegate the authority to grant a waiver to the field. >> that happened sunday? a matter of hours friday night into saturday afternoon, that is correct. bit confused.le i do not want to beat a dead horse but you talked about a year and a half, two years ago. details of the draft. secondly, not on what was in it, do you know the details of what was in this order outside of the

media? who exactly the department of homeland security was involved? can you provide names, a landing team from the transition team #was career staff involved? from the department of homeland security mayor to this announcement? >> i had an opportunity to look at at least two as i recollect address on friday. again, i don't exactly know that if legal representatives were involved. on the landing team, i would imagine some of them. ae point is, it came as department. we did not distribute to everyone in the department, all with those who needed it.

myself included, my chief and the lawyers. it was a back-and-forth process. i did talk to representatives in the white house. who probably certainly early in the week, about what was going on. developed.g i commented on the scene some of the initial drafts. it was a busy week. i got involved in -- i did not get involved in correcting -- mar or reformatting so >> from what you some from the white house, was it from the associated press? >> it was not from the media. although i will give you credit, you had it. you know, they were just the drafts coming back and forth within the interagency. with nbc. you had no personal input or any working withce making these drafts? in other words, the draft was

?ade and presented to you >> presented to me, i mean, this process,arily staff right? so the policy gurus on the white house was working with the interagency people. would note number, i expect of the interagency people. because it was still in staffing and the people who worked in and around me was saying, we got it, boss. this is kind of what we expected it to be. i did not look at it from the as i said, of's, correcting the grammar or, we need to change this word to explain missing. people who know the immigration process better than i do right now, and that includes interagency people, were the ones who did the staff work and ultimately the president signed it and as you know, that was

passed down to the relevant agency, in this case homeland security and we executed. as kevin said and as i endorse, the people on the right lines of border protection, in this case you can see they are absolutely -- they did an outstanding job and more credit is due because they flexed quickly when the court order came out and throughout this people who were inconvenienced for some time were treated in the way they are always treated, with dignity and respect. so -- to the orderlated itself and not the timing. >> actually, molly needs to get one question and. >> you said no one violated court orders. out saturday night, didn't require that lawyers at

dulles airport had access. leastere held up for at 24 hours. every single lawyers said they did not have access to folks held at the airport. why did you violate that court order. secondly, kevin, there have been numerous reports that people held at airports were given copies of forms that basically eliminates your legal residency. is that correct? officials directed to give copies of that order to people at airports? [indiscernible] -- >> is about six questions but i will let kevin answer. got it, weoon as we developed a process to give access to counsel to people who were being processed at dulles. it is offered to every resident coming through and was input immediately.

it did not apply to everyone being processed. just lawful permanent residents. that is first. we make sure that the arriving permanent residents have a list of legal counsel. again, at this point, we are processing for a waiver expeditiously and they are being released. we are not aware of anyone from the inside the inspection area, they are departing and welcomed home. in terms of the issue, we will look into that. there were some issues with extradited removal canceled by and we quickly moved to change the status and the system and correct it. so any issues with individuals, happy to look into it. happy to work with immigration counsel. we have briefed the association of immigration lawyers on the process and we are happy to work on it to make any corrections. >> just to be clear, to the best officernowledge, no cbp

knowingly or intentionally violated the court order. >> that is correct. reporter: we were told they were instructed by the white house not to provide information about the executive order. saidg your confirmation he it was not your understanding that president trump will be placing any additional limits on muslim travelers. i'm wondering when that may have changed? last question, if there was an operational plan in place, why was it that a legal process was then developed subsequently after the fact and green cardholders were turned the right. what is going to be done for the people that that has already happened to? is there a plan in place? vs deniedwere si

boarding. there were people that over interpreted our guidance. people were responding to the security aspect and then we had to work with them to read book travelers. to re travelers. b weo have workedo very hard to correct and clarify those issues. how the department of defense not know that they were -- if this list guidance was clear, it was just a few cases in which people over interpreted the guidance. why did the department of defense not know that they were compiling a list? >> communications between agencies have not been the best in the initial rollout of this process. these guidelines will be on our website. s tore working with state

make sure these carriers know the rules. reporter: senator rubio said yesterday that his office had been told by the department of state and department of homeland security that they were not allowed to provide information about the executive order to members of congress that they had been instructed by the white house not to do so. >> that people in homeland security and defense were instructed by the white house not to talk to congress after -- congress? congress?two >> i do not know anything about that. reporter: you said you had not had conversations with president-elect tron. he did not have the understanding that increase limits would be placed on travelers. can you comment on that now given what is happened?

io -- executive order has outlined seven countries for various reasons as to why travel on most countries will be prevented from traveling from the united states until we can -- the people are who they say they are and their backgrounds are such that we can trust that they're coming here for the right reasons as opposed to nefarious reasons. this is a process by which we will over the next 120 days ideally work with those countries. we are also looking at other orntries that we could help suggest that they tighten up on their procedures. i will say this, the vast majority of the 1.7 billion muslims that live on this planet , the vast majority of them have

access to the united states. all other things being equal. a relatively small number right now are being held up for a. of time until we can take a look at what their procedures are. i would be less than honest if i told you that some of those countries that are currently on the list may not be taken off the list anytime soon. are ine countries that various states of collapse, for example. ultimately, we would like to see all those countries taken off the list. we will see how that goes. [inaudible] [indiscernible]

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judiciary committee needs to be on senator jeff sessions nomination to be attorney general. see our coverage at 10:30 a.m. on c-span two. i'm am a white male and i am prejudiced. that it isis is something i learned. i do not like to be forced to like people. i like to be led to like people through example. what can i do to change? to be a better american? >> that was a remarkable moment. i did not realize until i stepped off the set because they were more calls after that. how powerful that was. there was something in his voice that test me and you could hear it. it was so authentic as he searches for the words to say something to a national audience

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